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*** Set by DeanoTeamBG on Mon Jun 24 10:47:53
* KenTeamBG rolls 1 d 20 +6 swinging at CoM_Solaufein, comes up with 18
* EL`Sheh-To Ken: weapon ineffective
<KenTeamBG> hit!
<CoM_Solaufein> I'm a god which means I am immune to little things like weapons
<RobinBanks> is not a valid number CoM_Solaufein.
<CoM_Solaufein> ^_^
<KenTeamBG> hahaha
<KenTeamBG> what Solau?
<KenTeamBG> btw, heya
<CoM_Solaufein> :)
<RobinBanks> my dice script just can;t work on beyondirc..
<Mary_Magus> 13Hi CoM_Solaufein
<RobinBanks> it's set to DALnet's chanserv
* Mary_Magus rolls 2 d 6 comes up with 7
* Mary_Magus rolls 2 d 6 comes up with 2
* Mary_Magus rolls 2 d 6 comes up with 4
* Mary_Magus rolls 2 d 6 comes up with 6
* MaxTeamBG rolls 1 d 6 5, hits KenTeamBG for 4 damage.
<CoM_Solaufein> why is Death always away when i need him
<RobinBanks> Too many parameters CoM_Solaufein.
<RobinBanks> so it's giving bad stuff back
* Mary_Magus rolls 2 d 6 comes up with 3
<EL`Sheh-To> CoM bein 
<RobinBanks> oops
* MaxTeamBG rolls 1 d 6 +5, hits Reswev for 8 damage.
<EL`Sheh-To> bein' a god I mean
<RobinBanks> is not a valid number EL`Sheh-To.
<RobinBanks> darnit
<Mary_Magus> 13He's watching a movie
<RobinBanks> you guys are now making mine try to run
<EL`Sheh-To> beain' a god is a bit too banal
<RobinBanks> is not a valid number EL`Sheh-To.
<CoM_Solaufein> damn pornos
<RobinBanks> is not a valid number CoM_Solaufein.
<EL`Sheh-To> bEIng
<EL`Sheh-To> eh?
* MaxTeamBG rolls 1 d 20 +5, hits Finamenon for 13 damage.
<RobinBanks> ok... I shut it off
<EL`Sheh-To> heh
<KenTeamBG> Death is always away
<KenTeamBG> even when he's here
<KenTeamBG> ;)
<EL`Sheh-To> shut 'em down shut 'em down shut 'em down!
<Mary_Magus> 13lol
<EL`Sheh-To> tum da tum ta da dum
* EL`Sheh-To dances
<MaxTeamBG> he says it's so people won't bother him. hehe
<KenTeamBG> is truesa
* MaxTeamBG rolls 1 d 50 50, hits El'Sheh-To for 28 damage.
<MaxTeamBG> damn
* MaxTeamBG rolls 1 d 50 +50, hits El'She-To for 91 damage.
* EL`Sheh-To Popo: weapon ineffective
* EL`Sheh-To Popo: weapon ineffective
<KenTeamBG> did you make a 2nd script?
<KenTeamBG> I did
<MaxTeamBG> I just modified yours
<KenTeamBG> its /rollat
<KenTeamBG> its amodified copy
<KenTeamBG> (insert space)
* MaxTeamBG rolls 1 d 8 +3, hits KenTeamBG for 11 damage.
<KenTeamBG> anyhoo
<MaxTeamBG> haha!
* RobinBanks makes EL ineffective..
<RobinBanks> wait a sec.. I'm too late.. EL IS ineffective
<RobinBanks> hehehehe
* EL`Sheh-To listens to: Quake III Arena - Sonic theme the bloodshed
<KenTeamBG> How do you all like the new Memberlist?
<KenTeamBG> http://www.teambg.net/forum/?action=mlall
* EL`Sheh-To watches Rob passionlessly
<MaxTeamBG> looking... long. lol
<EL`Sheh-To> anythin' *new*?
<KenTeamBG> I will be working on deleting unused/deadbeat accounts soon
* EL`Sheh-To listens to: Quake III Arena - Flakk_2 ctf theme
* EL`Sheh-To listens to: Quake III Arena - Fragbite
<EL`Sheh-To> 4,1Rockin'!
* EL`Sheh-To flies away with the kick-ass beat
<EL`Sheh-To> wooo... 
* Mary_Magus rolls 2 d 6 comes up with 11
* EL`Sheh-To listens to: Type o negative - Q2dm1
* Mary_Magus is falling asleep
* RobinBanks tickles MAry
* EL`Sheh-To makes music louder
* Mary_Magus ticles Robin
<RobinBanks> LOL
* Mary_Magus tosses trouts in the river with da trout 12¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ 3><((((º>0,1 trouts 3,0<º))))><
* RobinBanks is ticklish there
* Mary_Magus thinks of making them rainbow trout
* Fallen^Angel is listening to Barnaked ladies
* Mary_Magus has her clothes on :p
<Fallen^Angel> iam talking of the band
<EL`Sheh-To> hehe
* Fallen^Angel is away: Sleeping
* EL`Sheh-To listens to: Quake III Arena - Quad Beat_Rush
<EL`Sheh-To> cee yah
<EL`Sheh-To> yooo
<EL`Sheh-To> tbg ppl
<EL`Sheh-To> sleepy tbg ppl
<KenTeamBG> I just made the forst column use the same green monitor icon the rest of the forum uses for online/offline 
  indicator...is that better (to be the same) or were the green and red dots better here?
<KenTeamBG> http://www.teambg.net/forum/?action=mlall
<KenTeamBG> cya EL
<EL`Sheh-To> huh??
<EL`Sheh-To> I'm not leavin
<EL`Sheh-To> quiet yet
<Mary_Magus> 13See you El :)
<EL`Sheh-To> upset? X)
<EL`Sheh-To> Hey!
<Mary_Magus> 13lol
* Mary_Magus hugs EL`Sheh-To
<Mary_Magus> 13It's contagious :p
* EL`Sheh-To makes noises
<EL`Sheh-To> *grumble*
* RobinBanks hugz El and MAry.
<RobinBanks> hmm Mary is a nicer hug.
* EL`Sheh-To in-ef-fec-tive
* KenTeamBG forgets about the question he asked
<EL`Sheh-To> lol
<EL`Sheh-To> braaains
<RobinBanks> El seems all blocky and tight.. not a comfy huggle
<EL`Sheh-To> wtf
*** CoM_Solaufein is now known as Mystras_ChosenWorking
<Mary_Magus> 13The Monitor is cool :)
<KenTeamBG> http://forums.forgottenwars.net/index.php?board=;action=usersrecentposts;userid=418;user=-Alex-
<Fallen^Angel> i have proff of Chanserv talking
<Fallen^Angel> look 
<Fallen^Angel> [03:44:36] <ChanServ> Your just jealous that YOUR voices talk to me.
<Fallen^Angel> wow
<Fallen^Angel> iam scred now
<KenTeamBG> -Alex-/TME/Doc Holiday has been posting lewd posts and pictures of coke snorting...and he calls me 
  names for banning him
<Mary_Magus> 13Got an error page
<KenTeamBG> nice FWP refuge
<EL`Sheh-To> error error
<KenTeamBG> http://forums.forgottenwars.net/index.php?action=viewprofile;user=-Alex-
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> druggy loser i'd ban on site
<KenTeamBG> then show last 10 posts
<Fallen^Angel> Ken did yuo know that Chanserv chould talk ??
<Reswev> Isn't -Alex- TME?
<KenTeamBG> as I said already
<KenTeamBG> -Alex-/TME/Doc Holiday has been posting lewd posts and pictures of coke snorting...and he calls me 
  names for banning him
<KenTeamBG> look at his posts here:
<KenTeamBG> http://www.teambg.net/forum/?board=;action=viewprofile;user=-Alex-
<Reswev> Only came in for the last few lines
<KenTeamBG> and this is after I deleted his coke snorting sig pic and rude personal text
<Fallen^Angel> hmm some one tell me if they ever saw Chanserb talk ???
<Fallen^Angel> i have proff i have seen Chanserv talk look [03:44:36] <ChanServ> Your just jealous that YOUR voices talk to 
  me.
<Fallen^Angel> wow see 
<Fallen^Angel> it can talk
<EL`Sheh-To> talk talk talk talk all the time
<Fallen^Angel> hmm 
<Mary_Magus> 13Where did you see that?
<Fallen^Angel> cant tell ya
<Fallen^Angel> its on this server
<Fallen^Angel> and its true 
-KenTeamBG:#teambg- shaddup
<Fallen^Angel> it was the owner of the server that made Chanserv ttalk 
<Mary_Magus> 13lol
<EL`Sheh-To> uhm
<KenTeamBG> here is TME's lovely sig pic:
<KenTeamBG> http://forums.forgottenwars.net/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=1078;start=0
<Fallen^Angel> hehe i dont like the idea imagen Chanserv talking back to you when tyo register a channle
-KenTeamBG:#teambg- shaddup
<Finamenon> tme?
<Mary_Magus> 13yes
<Finamenon> ...
* EL`Sheh-To frowns
<Fallen^Angel> who the hell is that ??? 
<Fallen^Angel> that Alex dude
<Finamenon> no clue
<KenTeamBG> TheMindsEye
<Finamenon> mary decided to just say "yes" instead of answering me lol
<KenTeamBG> the guy that fakes being graphically talented
<Finamenon> oh, no clue who that is lol
<Fallen^Angel> hmm 
<Fallen^Angel> Ken is that you ?
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> the one with the retarded mod idea
<KenTeamBG> where?
<Fallen^Angel> in that pic ?
<KenTeamBG> that is HIM!
<KenTeamBG> you think I do drugs?
<KenTeamBG> and then if I did put them online?
<KenTeamBG> 0_o
<Fallen^Angel> hmm 
<Fallen^Angel> dont know
<Mary_Magus> 13-Alex- is TME
<Fallen^Angel> geuss yuo do drugs the way you act
<KenTeamBG> that pic and his posts on TeamBG forums is why he was banned
<KenTeamBG> go look at his posts at TeamBG
<KenTeamBG> what FA?
<Fallen^Angel> j/k Ken dont worry 
<KenTeamBG> I have never done any illegal drugs of any kind in my life
<Fallen^Angel> i was teasing you 
<KenTeamBG> its not funny
<Fallen^Angel> to me it was
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> uhhhh dude letslike make a mod thats got lots of stuff in and drugs like yeah man
<Fallen^Angel> and thats not any drug thats just baking pwuder
<KenTeamBG> http://www.teambg.net/forum/?board=24;action=display;threadid=4589;start=0
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> lets turn the birds into airplanes and call it a WW2 mod
<KenTeamBG> http://www.teambg.net/forum/?board=24;action=display;threadid=4321;start=20
<Fallen^Angel> nigth all 
<KenTeamBG> and here he is talking about downloading games on Kazaa
<KenTeamBG> http://www.teambg.net/forum/?board=24;action=display;threadid=4321;start=20
<Fallen^Angel> who is thsi guy ?
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> ahh yes the idiot pirate
<Fallen^Angel> he is uts 
<Fallen^Angel> more nust then me 
<Fallen^Angel> HEY 
<Mary_Magus> 13Res, your Sig is messed up
<Reswev> It did?
<KenTeamBG> and he's been babbling off topic like mad too...
<Fallen^Angel> hehe 
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> does he have a static IP?
<Reswev> I can't even remember my last post...
<KenTeamBG> with this and his outright assault on me when WoRm attacked, he won't be missed
<KenTeamBG> and FWP can have the little punk
<Fallen^Angel> oki nigt night all i have to go to bed now its 4 in the mornig at my place
<Mary_Magus> 13http://www.teambg.net/forum/?board=24;action=display;threadid=4321;start=20 #32
<Reswev> Oh yeah...
<Reswev> let me check my profile
<KenTeamBG> at least Deano had the sense to lock that topic
<KenTeamBG> hehe
<KenTeamBG> if anyone sees KR, please let him know I am looking for him.  ;)
<Reswev> Mary - [img] http://members.aol.com/marimagus/1/MSM002L.jpg[/img] seems fine
<Mary_Magus> 13Compare it to the display
<Mary_Magus> 13oh
<Mary_Magus> 13it got better. :p
<Reswev> lol, it was that space after [img]
<Mary_Magus> 13Last time I looked, i saw the image url displayed
<Reswev> Yeah, needed to remove the space
<DeathAWAY> the Mass Converter handles dialog-tbgs right?
<Mary_Magus> 13Yes
<Mary_Magus> 13It makes em
<Mary_Magus> 13Does scripts too
<Mary_Magus> 13At least the alpha which Ghrey gave me did
<KenTeamBG> I just noticed something
<Mary_Magus> 13I'm off. see you later.
<Mary_Magus> 13Hemm
<KenTeamBG> look at the title of Phar's page (browser titlebar)
<KenTeamBG> http://www11.brinkster.com/pharaun/
<KenTeamBG> cya MM
<Mary_Magus> 13:)
*** Quits: Mary_Magus (Quit: )
<MaxTeamBG> for Baldur's Gate II SoA/ToB
<KenTeamBG> what kind of mod does it say it is?
<MaxTeamBG> total conversion
<KenTeamBG> must be all dlg's
<KenTeamBG> no...read again
<MaxTeamBG> ...
<MaxTeamBG> I must be missing what you're seeing
<KenTeamBG> ... A Total Conversation for...
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> look in the status bar
<MaxTeamBG> "The Dragon's Call - A Total Conversion for Baldur's Gate II SoA/ToB
<MaxTeamBG> "
<KenTeamBG> nope
<KenTeamBG> "The Dragon's Call - A Total Conversation for Baldur's Gate II SoA/ToB"
<KenTeamBG> Canversation = speaking
<KenTeamBG> Conversation*
<MaxTeamBG> hmm... lol
<MaxTeamBG> hard to notice at first glimpse
<Reswev> Um...
<MaxTeamBG> lmao
<KenTeamBG> yousa just be blind, mista Popo
<MaxTeamBG> yeah
<KenTeamBG> lol
* Finamenon goes searching for po's brain
* KenTeamBG has gotta finish working out the way the IE Game Install Manager will work
<KenTeamBG> brb...taking the trash out...
<KenTeamBG> THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!
*** KenTeamBG is now known as KenAWAY
<Finamenon> damn i cant keep up with these forums
<Finamenon> they go so fast
*** KenAWAY is now known as KenTeamBG
* KenTeamBG is not to be pestered!!!
<KenTeamBG> TeamBG forums go fast?
<Finamenon> no
<Finamenon> i dont think so at least
<Reswev> ?
<Finamenon> lol i dunno
<Finamenon> i was talking about the nwn scripting forums
<KenTeamBG> ah
<Finamenon> theres like a new reply or post every minute
<Finamenon> hard to keep up 0_o
<KenTeamBG> have you gone into NWN multiplayer?
<KenTeamBG> people are joining so fast their join messages make it impossible to use chat
<Finamenon> lol the patch disabled that
<KenTeamBG> ah   cool
<Finamenon> :)
<Finamenon> yes, it was very annoying wasnt it hehe
<KenTeamBG> yep
*** Quits: RobinBanks (Ping timeout)
<DeathAWAY> I am too cheap to buy the game, so i will wait till the price has gone down
<KenTeamBG> ;)
<Finamenon> :D
<DeathAWAY> same with dungeon seige and morrowind
<KenTeamBG> and IWD2 or skipping it?
<MaxTeamBG> NWN is so unbelievably anticipated... kind of strange.
<DeathAWAY> I dunno, I haven't even played IWD1 past the first 5 minutes yet, lol
<MaxTeamBG> people I know who aren't generally RPG fans have even heard about it and want to get it
<KenTeamBG> Liz works at EB right now
<KenTeamBG> and I was in there today and they have a display with only one left in it
<KenTeamBG> I dunno how many they had tho
<DeathAWAY> its like the bible, something good happens its God's will, something bad its God works in mysterious ways
<Finamenon> i got the first one the store had ;)
<KenTeamBG> Ray brought mine to my door!
<KenTeamBG> and we partied!!!  :P~
<KenTeamBG> not
<KenTeamBG> oh, and Gary Gygax was there too!
<Finamenon> i was walking around best buy with the preorder in my hand, and one of the employees said "we just got 
  those today" so he went and got a box from the back and opened it in front of me :D
<Finamenon> so i didnt have to waste money on that silly preorder ;)
<KenTeamBG> lol
<DeathAWAY> I worked at a bookstore when the 4th Harry Potter book came out...I had my copy 2 weeks before anybody 
  else
* KenTeamBG stares at Death
* KenTeamBG slowly walks away
<DeathAWAY> haha
* Finamenon looks frightened
* KenTeamBG searches for Death's Harry Potter fan site
<DeathAWAY> Fluffy's heads on a pike
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> wtf?
<Reswev> Harry poter is the bane of my life. One of the little brats who played a lead role in the film is her student so she 
  made us watch the goddamn film
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> Sticks Deaths head on a pike
<Finamenon> who is her
<KenTeamBG> you know...her!
<Finamenon> yeah
<Finamenon> of course, how foolish of me
<Finamenon> o_0
<DeathAWAY> whats her face...the one with no life
<Finamenon> ok well its bedtime
<Finamenon> night everyone
<KenTeamBG> cya
*** Quits: Finamenon (Quit: sweepy time)
*** Quits: Reswev (Ping timeout)
<EL`Sheh-To> ok now
<EL`Sheh-To> t'day a rockin' DnD session takes place so I'm goin' ta bed to enjoy it after  heh heh
<EL`Sheh-To> cee yah  tbg
*** Quits: EL`Sheh-To (Quit: four-fifty game before somebody else takes you outa the frame and put your name in shame 
cover up your face you can't run a race the pace is too vast it just won't last...)
* KenTeamBG just updated a YaBBSE mod and posted a link to it...I hope ppl like it...its my Memberlist
* KenTeamBG should make a nice mod for people so they can do the show individual/multiple categories too
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> thought TBG tools stayed with TBG
<KenTeamBG> lol
<KenTeamBG> little forum mods I have released to people before
<KenTeamBG> you've been hanging around FWP too much!  lol
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> ?
<KenTeamBG> big bad evil TeamBG (or Ken)
<KenTeamBG> lol
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> i saw Soercerous net have the character editor u made and this site i am looking at now has it 
  also
<KenTeamBG> what site is the other one?
<KenTeamBG> Sorc has permission
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> http://www.baldurs-gate.com/
<KenTeamBG> this place does not
<KenTeamBG> and this is one reason wahy
<KenTeamBG> why*
<KenTeamBG> those are all outdated by many, MANY months
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> bladur's gate editor http://www.baldurs-gate.com/
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> goddamn it
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> bg_ed14
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<Binabik> hey all
<KenTeamBG> bg_ed149 is the latest
<MaxTeamBG> hey Binabik
<KenTeamBG> plus they have that old cre editing version
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> o
<DeathAWAY> "Many moons, editors older"
<Binabik> i went to the school thing, but  there are no lessons?
<KenTeamBG> when the last version of CCBG has cre editing
<Binabik> i am having trouble making an NPC for HoW
<KenTeamBG> IWD is not good for adding NPCs
<Binabik> :(
<KenTeamBG> they messed it up
<Binabik> darn
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> whole purpose of IWD is to have ur own created parrty
<Binabik> yeah but i needed to add a plot item, introduced by an NPC
<MaxTeamBG> Binabik: Try changing the EA of your NPC to PC... I haven't tried it myself, but I believe it's worked for others
<Binabik> like those ppl that run up and say 'help my dog is being eaten by rats'
<MaxTeamBG> or is it joinable?
<MaxTeamBG> a joinable NPC or non-joinable NPC?
<Binabik> non
<Binabik> just a plot device
<MaxTeamBG> that's not hard then... where are you stuck?
<KenTeamBG> oh!
<Binabik> well, right at the start, finding the graphic for a town person
<Binabik> and the script stuff
<Binabik> i looked through hundreds of CRE files
<MaxTeamBG> what program are you using for the CRE?
<Binabik> infinty explorer to view them
<Binabik> and character control to edit
<KenTeamBG> don't use Char Control
<MaxTeamBG> you'll want to get Near Infinity for editing script and dialog references on the CRE file
<KenTeamBG> I should remove it but when I do ppl start emailing me for it
<Binabik> i know, a noob question, but i just started, and the docs on the site don't seem to cover this
<MaxTeamBG> there's a link to Near Infinity in the www.teambg.com links section
<Binabik> ok will grab that one
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> theres a tutorial on creature editing
<Binabik> only one for talking items
<Binabik> and one for innkeepers
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*** services.beyondirc.net sets mode: +v Reswev
<MaxTeamBG> hey Res
<Reswev> hi
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> on the forum
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> http://www.teambg.net/forum/?board=30;action=display;threadid=4304
<Binabik> are there many projects going where ppl are making original graphics for modules?
<Binabik> i don't just mean changing the colours etc
<Binabik> oh, forums, havn't been there :P
<MaxTeamBG> many? I don't know about many... there's mine, and a few others I know of.
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> to much work
<Binabik> here's my room i just made today
<Binabik> http://www.spatulamonkey.com/in_progress/room04.jpg
<MaxTeamBG> lookin' real nice. What prog you use?
<Binabik> max
<Binabik> gfx is the easy part for me, all this editing is the hard part <g>
<MaxTeamBG> ah, same... here's something I'm working on: http://www.teambg.com/max/testarch1.jpg -- big. heheh.
* DeathAWAY can't figure out max...but rhino is easy enough
<MaxTeamBG> well, if you can figure out 3dsmax, you shouldn't have a problem editing
<MaxTeamBG> or not too much of one, anyway
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<MaxTeamBG> once you get passed the basic problems, you'll be fine
<MaxTeamBG> hey Minsc
<Minsc_in_Training> Heya
<Binabik> yeah, once i see what they do it's ok
<Binabik> it's mainly searching through all those numbers that annoys me :)
<Binabik> sweet :) you model the statues etc?
<MaxTeamBG> nah, statues are poser. They'd take too long to model individually... everything except the statues (yes, the 
  impressive part. lol) is me
<Binabik> :)
<DeathAWAY> http://daeth1.hey.nu/other/board6.jpg
<Binabik> looking good though
<DeathAWAY> Rhino
<MaxTeamBG> Death, can you add any lighting in Rhino?
<DeathAWAY> yes
<DeathAWAY> and shinyness
<MaxTeamBG> add some! hehe... and shadows. :d
<MaxTeamBG> oops
<MaxTeamBG> :D
<DeathAWAY> I tried, everything looked too washed out with it
<MaxTeamBG> you can't turn down the multiplier?
<DeathAWAY> I could
* DeathAWAY is hungry
* KenTeamBG wonders where KR is...
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<KenTeamBG> aloha
<UltimaWeaponX> greetings
<UltimaWeaponX> so ken
<UltimaWeaponX> ive heard many tales of your greatness
<KenTeamBG> ?
<UltimaWeaponX> from WarAngel
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> 9,1°9,1[15,1Laughing 0ut Loud9,1]9,1°
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> lol
<UltimaWeaponX> i here yo udo a good job
<UltimaWeaponX> you do*
<KenTeamBG> of doing what?
<UltimaWeaponX> i dunno
<UltimaWeaponX> im just talking now
<KenTeamBG> I am pretty good at keeping my seat warm.
<UltimaWeaponX> cool
<MaxTeamBG> he likes combing his nose hair. :D
<KenTeamBG> nah, I pull'em out
<MaxTeamBG> [sarcastic]suuuure you do[/sarcastic]
<KenTeamBG> (which hurts like mad)
<UltimaWeaponX> i know what yo umean
<KenTeamBG> I am getting ear hair now too.  >=(
<DeathAWAY> you don't know how to do it then....needle nose pliers
<UltimaWeaponX> so how do you guys like Macintosh
<UltimaWeaponX> ?
<MaxTeamBG> apples taste good
<UltimaWeaponX> i love mac
<KenTeamBG> I like red delicious
<UltimaWeaponX> big macintosh suporter
<DeathAWAY> granny smiths
* Minsc_in_Training is a big mac supporter too
<KenTeamBG> I am eating mac & cheese now
<MaxTeamBG> lol Minsc
* Minsc_in_Training couldn't resist :P
* KenTeamBG would rather support carrots though, truthfully
<MaxTeamBG> UltimaWeapon: seriously, the only Mac I've really had experience with was an early release of the ibook, 
  which wasn't pretty
<UltimaWeaponX> why wasnt it "pretty"
<UltimaWeaponX> i am currently using a mac and its running very well
<KenTeamBG> what can you do with it?
<KenTeamBG> how many games do you have for it?
<KenTeamBG> where do you buy them
<KenTeamBG> how much do they cost?
<UltimaWeaponX> ummmm....good question
<UltimaWeaponX> they arent too expensive
<UltimaWeaponX> got mine from mac warehouse
<KenTeamBG> where is your right mouse buttom?
<KenTeamBG> button*
<UltimaWeaponX> stored in the command key
<UltimaWeaponX> kinda
<KenTeamBG> can you get NWN for it?
<DeathAWAY> Ken, same place it always is...on my PC mouse
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> if Mac was any good there would be more software made for it
<UltimaWeaponX> im not good with abreviations
<KenTeamBG> I had an Apple IIgs
<KenTeamBG> that was my last Apple
<KenTeamBG> after wasting WAY too much money
<UltimaWeaponX> tell
<UltimaWeaponX> me
<UltimaWeaponX> how much did you spend
<KenTeamBG> and my nice color printer wouldn't work right with it
<KenTeamBG> that was a while ago
<KenTeamBG> I spent about US$2K
<UltimaWeaponX> wow
<KenTeamBG> same as a PC that had 1000 times more software and ran faster
<KenTeamBG> and the PCs actually *worked* with the peripherals
<UltimaWeaponX> i payed $1200 for my imac and it is pretty much the newer model
<KenTeamBG> prices are much lower for all computers now
<KenTeamBG> for standard model
<UltimaWeaponX> no
<KenTeamBG> uh
<KenTeamBG> yes
<UltimaWeaponX> i have the iMac DV plus special edition
<KenTeamBG> you are not understanding me
<UltimaWeaponX> oh
<UltimaWeaponX> ok
<UltimaWeaponX> sorry
<KenTeamBG> you actually made my point for me
<UltimaWeaponX> really
<KenTeamBG> you have a higher end iMac
<KenTeamBG> and its cheap
<MaxTeamBG> UltimaWeaponX: in response to why it wasn't pretty... well, the power cord caught on fire and almost burned 
  my house down. And now the screen is completely cracked, the keyboard doesn't work, and it was hard to control 
  everything (though that's probably just me since I'm a windows guy)
<KenTeamBG> just like Wintel PCs are now
<UltimaWeaponX> but there isnt anything that ive really needed to do that i cant
<KenTeamBG> ok
<UltimaWeaponX> there are things ive wanted to do but couldnt
<UltimaWeaponX> but it was trivial for my needs
<KenTeamBG> but put me in front of your iMac and I'd be hurting
<UltimaWeaponX> well i have different needs
<KenTeamBG> exactly
<UltimaWeaponX> so paying for a better comp for a lot more would have been wastful
<KenTeamBG> however...a Wintel PC can satisfy not only my needs, but yours too
<UltimaWeaponX> so it all depends on needs and budgets
<KenTeamBG> whereas you iMac can not satisfy my needs
<KenTeamBG> and Wintel are cheaper
<Mystras_ChosenWorking> Yep say yes to the Mighty WinTel
<KenTeamBG> a Wintel PC that does what your iMac does, and more, would cost about $800
<UltimaWeaponX> but i do find that my graphics programs i find are 10 times better than those found with most windows 
  users
<KenTeamBG> heck
<KenTeamBG> you could get the Wintel PC and put Linux on it instead and it would be better than an iMac
<KenTeamBG> no
<KenTeamBG> Wintel PCs have most of the same graphics software as macs do
<Minsc_in_Training> Then you have people like me, who use Linux but program for Windows.
<KenTeamBG> the idea that macs are better for graphics was a myth sold to corporate execs and they imparted that BS on 
  their employees
<KenTeamBG> so a whole industry was snookered
<UltimaWeaponX> ohhhh.....i see
<KenTeamBG> if you want/need better graphics support, don't get a mac...get a SG or Irix
<KenTeamBG> well...
<Minsc_in_Training> On the topic of snookering industries, are the nVidia video cards better than the ATI stuff, like us 
  nVidiots believe?
<UltimaWeaponX> i really have no idea
<KenTeamBG> everytime I debate such issues, I create an enemy for life...so I will bow out now and pledge my alligeance 
  to all things mac.
<KenTeamBG> nVidia is better
<Minsc_in_Training> Yes!
<UltimaWeaponX> thank you
<Minsc_in_Training> I knew it
<UltimaWeaponX> you are a noble man
<KenTeamBG> I know from testing MSIE @ MS that ATI has many problems with drivers they never fix
<UltimaWeaponX> ive havent gotten to the point to start comparing things like that
<UltimaWeaponX> so i couldnt argue
<KenTeamBG> wait...nm...I have no opinion
<KenTeamBG> move along
<KenTeamBG> there's nothing to see here
<Minsc_in_Training> lol
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<MaxTeamBG> I'm off to sleep, guys
<MaxTeamBG> cya later
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